Loot needs to persist after death.

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On my second try, I barely managed to killed the Raider boss right as you get into Act 2. He drops a Rare and a couple of currency, and then I immediately die to his entourage that ascends from the cliffs above before being able to pick up the loot.

I respawn at the checkpoint right next to the battle area thinking no biggie, I’ll just pick it up now that he’s dead, and it’s just gone. No boss to re-battle, no other mobs, no loot, nothing.

This wouldn’t have pissed me off so badly except for the fact that Rares are actually rare in this game and it was one of two I’d dropped in the last hour of gameplay. It really soured my whole session and I just feel like there at least needs to be a chest in town for picking up lost gear like this (similar to D4)

Comments

leadwithcuriousity20

Agreed, it’s like the game is griefing you when that happens. I think it’s just an oversight and not a design decision

Yurainous5

Yep, this happened to me. Boss wasn't too difficult, it's just his dozens upon dozens of goons that swarm you afterwards. The only frustrating deaths I've ever had in this game was getting stuck on terrain then having mobs swarm around you, hemming you in.

ShootHotHug4

Agreed. Nothing like spending 10+ min fighting a boss then out of nowhere get rekt by a swarm of mobs before getting the drops.

Jstnw892

Like others have said, this seems to their vision. You get one shot and if you die then you failed and need to try again another time

CerephNZ1

To add insult to injury, it’s always loot that you’ve been looking out for that drops when you die. The amount of jeweller orbs or levelled support gems that drop when I die makes me very sad lol

_FlexClown_1

Ya this needs to change two days ago!

Strill1

Easy solution: Don't die.

cironoric1

I lost some rares in this way, too. But I don't think there's anything to fix - just like leaving an item on the ground in a map with no portals left.

gnurensohn1

Happened to me with the wolf lol. He died but died a second later too. Then I went and killed him again because no one steals my loot!

AbleMathematician9541

My first jewelers orb dropped and I died right after. Haven't seen once since. Devastating.

Inevitable_Resort_101

Got to agree, happened to me once. I mean i get it, but just taking your stuff away felt underwhelming.

Mechanic definitely could see an improvement. No respawned boss and no loot kinda lose-lose situation.

Blammar1

No. That's your death penalty. I accept it.

DeliriumDrum1

Hard disagree.

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Wash_Manblast1

I bet this gets changed

Camstamash1

Getting ambushed after a boss fight seems like such an evil design choice from the devs lol.

benjaminbingham1

Wrong game, try again elsewhere, chief. You learned the fight isn’t over until his minions are dead. You didn’t beat the encounter, you don’t get the loot. Take what you learned and move on to the next.

seatron1

When this first happened to me, I was a little mad. For some reason though, seeing it happen to everyone else makes me feel better, like it's par for the course and one of the risks.

Business_Software4251

Yep, that's way too punishing. That's a not a difficulty deal, that's just cheap and awful. Maybe it wasn't even intended by devs?

Ynneb821

Yes this is super frustrating and have no real value from a gameplay pov.

jaaacclk1

Yeah happened to me a couple times in early act, consider it punishment and a trial for maps when you cant reenter the map anyway

Alarmed_Pizza24041

I strongly disagree.

You shouldn't let your guard down after killing boss.

Stuff like these happens in other games like Monster Hunter where u have limited amount of time to loot.

It's frustrating when u die or interrupted, it makes u hate interruption even more. But it that vengeance just grew on you to be more diligent.

It's just classic situation. Nostalgic & Refreshing.

Plus, it makes a good rant/rage posting.

LaNague1

The raider boss got me too with the 50 enemies that spawn on top of you after he dies, wtf.

Parasit19891

How about staying alive???

CypLeviathan1

The same thing happened to me with Draven. I killed him while he hit me with his aoe. Resurrected at checkpoint, my exalt and 2 rares gone.

SnooPeppers64011

In 2 acts, I double KOed with bosses 3 times. All the yellow stuff on the floor, poof. Hey, at least quest item didn't bug out like a lot of games do.

Professional-Owl6571

EVERYONE KEEP UPVOTING THIS!! JUST LOST A UNIQUE WORTH 10 EXALTED IM FUCKING PISSED

PineappleLemur1

Is this a difficulty thing?

Like I never noticed any loot drop and I have died many times...

Tadian1

That's only a campaign issue though. If you die in the endgame in maps everything still on the ground is gone too.
Better get used to it now.

DaWombatLover1

Eh, yea this is a common experience with that boss, but only because we aren’t expecting the ambush.

It’s an ambush!! You’re supposed to get got by it.

Considering death has NO OTHER detriment because of the nature of the checkpoint system and how plentiful they are, I like the current set up.

satibel1

note that single shot loot does persist, I died on a boss and the uncut gem redropped, I think it might likely also be the case for quest items.

I know it's frustrating but it's also a case of don't die, if you died before killing the mob you just wouldn't have seen the loot.

cokeman51

Happened to me too.

PSSRDavis1

I killed the rock boss in Trials of Bullshit right as I got tagged by a volcano and failed. A unique dropped and I couldn’t get it.

Nearly 25hrs later and I haven’t seen another one drop. Bout 45-50hrs in total and I’ve only seen one.

It’s so demoralizing to the point where I question if I even want to play anymore.

Wonny19631

same exact thing happened to me on the same exact boss i was pissedddd

kenm1301

Same thing happened to me and I lost two exalts because of it. This needs to be changed ASAP. It felt horrible in Last Epoch and it feels horrible here.

Mr_Poulet1

You could have respawn the whole area including the boss by re-entering the zone holding ctrl.

I feel people are no enough aware you can and should farm some bosses/zones.

-Bimbam-1

I litterally just lost back to back loots from the last boss of Act 1 and Balbala after a 20 mn fight.

Great idea ggg, really great.

skullmen171

Did they do a quick patch on this? I just died and revived and a rare item dropped before death carried over (but not blues)

Status-Resort-47581

This is not a skill issue

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IshizakaLand1

Softcore is not the vision.

s4m50n1

The worst part of this is when the boss has a quest item. Game is literally unplayable for me since I cant progress the story. Game thinks i killed the boss, which i did, and therefore won't respawn it. Have relogged, came back hrs later and boss still isn't summonable. It's not a difficulty mechanic, it's a straight up dogshit mechanic. Bug report sent so nothing I can do but sit and wait, and realistically i'll just have to start all over. Bricking a map is one thing, bricking the entire game is another.

Honestmonster1

This same thing happened to me, the mob was unexpected and they killed me. Then it happened again at the next boss too. I Killed him with a grenade at the same moment he killed me. Two bosses in a row. I would care but IDGAF about loot. Just like shooting monsters with my crossbow and blowing them up with my grenades.

Confident_Benefit_111

How about the game just plays itself and wins for you too while they're at it? 🤦

Inaluogh20

It's not that loot doesn't persist. It's that the ENTIRE map insta resets when you respawn. Not just loot, everything on the map resets aside from the layout. It's like a soft instance reset, far as I can tell only difference is the layout staying the same. I'm saying this as someone who enjoyed plenty of soulslikes, this mechanic makes no sense in an arpg.

Myztikal_D-1

It does. It's just that you are in another instance and death is banishment from that instance so you can't get it.

Unhappy-Mortgage-103-12

It shuld not. U need first clear every little shiet before you start picking up your drops. You die? Shit happend. For me it's pretty ok.

And yes I lose 2 uniqe items becouse I die and not pick it up.