PSA: This is how to get 3rd and 4th ascendancies

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GGG knows we are confused on how to ascend, but they didn't say it's bugged, just unclear. So this way of ascension seems to be intended.

Here's how to get all ascendancy points:

Ascension 1 = Trial of the Sekhemas (Floor 1), or Trial of Chaos (4 trials)

Ascension 2 = Whichever trial you haven't done for ascension 1

Ascension 3 = Trial of the Sekhemas (Floor 3) in a 60+ zone, OR Trial of Chaos (10 Trials) in a 75+ Zone

Ascension 4 = Trial of the Sekhemas (Defeat final boss) in 75+ zone, OR Trial of Chaos (defeat Trialmaster)

Comments

jMS_441

For Ascension 2, you also can do

Trial of the Sekhemas with 2 floors, or Trial of Chaos with 7 trials.

CommunicationOdd39181

thanks dude it helps.

bennyrosso1

Thanks!!!!

bernie_lomax81

Trial of chaos (4 trials) got me my second ascendancy

Designer-Attorney1

The only thing i really dislike in POE2 is the rituals (both of them). 1+ hour to finish to lose in the final boss and start from the beggining will make me rage quit 100%.

They MUST BE SHORTER

bradleyman881

For ascension 3 I was under the impression it was the level 60 version, so the 7 floor ultimatum could be used for it. The 10 floor and 75 version would be for the 4th ascendancy. Was I mistaken?

FarForge1

So we only have a total of 8 ascendancy skill points to work with right?

YamiDes14031

wait you need 10 trials chaos???i thought its 7 wtf

Emergency-Cow97531

Youch, as a melee I guess I'll just accept I'll only have 4 points in total.

SneakyBadAss1

Why is this so unnecessary, convoluted? That sounds like a release schedule of all the editions of a game released by EA.

How we've got from "you go there, you find a boss, you kill him, you get ascendancy" to this...

Jaba011

Ascension 3 is wrong. You just need 7 ultimatum trials. 10 is for the fourth.

Just did 7 and got my third set.

ChefTorte1

Why is this info not in-game?

Nochildren791

Thank you!

One question: is there anyway to run the first trial of act 2 again before the post game? The first time I did it I had to give it a plot coin, but I don't know how to get another entry ticket. I wanted to learn more about the mechanics etc but it won't let me back in once I got my first 2 ascension points.

Slippery_Ninja_DW1

I'm sticking to my 4 ascension points and not even going to bother with the others until GGG makes the experience a little more forgiving. It's one of the worst experiences I've had with a mechanic in any game I've played. It's not even remotely fun and if it stays in this form I doubt I will bother with leagues when they eventually happen.

Dead_On_ArrivalAgain1

Thanks for info.

chrisbirdie1

Im pretty sure ascendancy 3 in the future will just require the 3rd unreleased ascension trial and then 4 any of the 3 at max difficulty

GunAndAGrin1

So I was in a 3 person group, one guy used the quest item token and it didnt consume mine or the other guys. We failed, miserably, so put the Trial on hold till we progress a little more.

Meanwhile the token was taking up room in my inventory, and it cant be stashed, so I ported to the Trial, used it, then left without doing the Trial.

Am I locked out of that first Trial now or can I go back and do it any time? Do you need a new token for every run?

Cheaper2KeepHer1

Commenting for ascensions later!

bass2mouth-1

Thanks for this ascended knowledge my guy

N4r4k41

So we get 8 points to spend right,?

boiboiboi2231

i got 2 points from first trials (3 tries)

Krowthedeademperor1

I had no idea you could do the other one for your 3rd and 4th point. I only got it tonight because my housemate said I could. I swear I heard Jonathan Rogers say you had to find the harder coins in end game.

I was in act 2 cruel when I found out and just went back to normal act 3 and one shot everyone in the trial.

Carlos_RR021

New to POE here, could someone help me understand this a little bit better, please?

What happens in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th ascendency? After the first ascendency trial, I get to pick an Ascension Class, do I just get points towards that class afterwards or does something else happen?

Does your starting class determine what ascending class you have access to, and is there no way to change it?

Thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time!

admjdinitto1

I was under the impression you could get Ascension 3 with just 7 Trials from the Trial of Chaos... That would make sense since we got Ascension 2 just doing 4?

Kyttenss1

Ultimatum and Sanctum are bad and GGG should feel bad. I wonder if there was a popular streamer out there good enough not to ascend and make it to the end game in protest.

The worst part is that there is so much power locked behind arguably the worst feeling content to play. And if GGG wants to correct it for all classes. They are going to have to reduce the difficulty to a point where it's a breeze. The best feedback I could give would be.... Try something else.

How about a maze thats not timed where you have to dash through enemies and traps and fight a boss 3 times. Where each time their health gets lower and lower. Make it around 10 mins per attempt. You could also add a feature that allows you to make it scale on your choices for better rewards. Builds who arent specialized can still manage to complete it. But those who enjoy it can ramp up the difficulty.

0re0n1

For a game being known for player choice of not engaging with content they don't like, forcing everyone to interact with the worst poe1 league mechanics is just so weird. Why doesn't GGG think it goes against core design pillars?

At least once all 3 trials are in, doing them all of first difficulty should be tolerable.

They should just give last ascension point for killing ANY endgame boss (Xesht, Olroth etc), not just trials.

This_Excuse60561

Why did they have to make such a simple thing so complicated. Classic GGG

Ok_City16481

Last 2 ascendency points for sanctum are bugged atm. You can kill floor 4 boss but it wont spawn a portal to reward room so u cant kill on the statue for ascendency points.

acowingeggs1

For the 1st acendancy I have to get through the multiple zones and kill the boss right? It sucks for Meele warrior, I'll just level a little more haha.

TrapDoorSpida1

So how do you determine how floors you do? I have 3 trials so far. The first I died, but it let me do it again with the same token, and I was able to beat it the next try. The second one I was able to beat, no ascendency points (I really really hope I just didn't miss the cabinet or something and that's what caused me to miss my points). 3rd one I died, and lost the token and didn't get to try again. All 3 were the Sekhemas trials I believe.

Hotwingz661

Just so i can find this later.

KitsuneKamiSama1

Guess i'm not getting my 3rd acendancy, or 4th. Sekhemas just takes way too fucking long and can screw you over if you take an off hit or you get shitty modifiers (I reached the end of floor 2 and got one shot by a boss attack that was offscreen wasting like half an hour), Chaos is even worse on the modifiers part where some of them cover the entire boss arena and are undodgable.

I'm fine with the difficulty, on act 2 cruel right now, but it just feel ballbustingly annoying to reach the boss only to get one shot.

kingofgama1

Man I can't believe how bad they made the trials in Poe2. Feels fucking horrible to run Sanctum on warrior

narc0401

dont bother with ultimatum. some of the mods like 'physical damage runes' covers the entire screen. theres a boss with an arena slightly smaller than the entire screen, so it's impossible for a lot of builds.

Ant101021

So im level 38 and got the chaos one, will I still ascend further if I do it or no?

Murandus1

Sounds convoluted for the sake of it. I'll wait for them to fix this.

DrBob6661

This needs to be better explained ingame. Hopefully it is fixed when we get the third trial.

They said you could do any trial to ascend 4 times but you seem punished for skipping sanctum if ultimatum is 4 rooms to get your first points

hunisher11

Brothers and sisters, I’m new and I just selected my first ascendancy. But I’m confused on how to do the trial again how do I get another Barya…

Sidra_Games1

How do you get back into Sekhamas on Cruel - the quest don't seem to be moving for me. Do you have to take the item back to the lev 22 Sekhamas?

japenrox1

For ascension 3, you need to be in the cruel zone for it to count also. As well as the key having 3 or 7 floors respectively.

Mysterious-Figure1211

Just want to point out that this isn’t what optional content means. Seems you HAVE to do trial at least once.

Which means I’m not ascending. GGG managed to make a worse lab, instead of removing lab being required like everyone wanted.

realistic_bastard_101

Cruised through most of the game but having a hell of a time with ultimatum :( for my 2nd ascendancy

juicedg1

You cant get them anyway because they are extremely overtuned. Legit the only thing I hate about the game atm.

kyokotsu11

Do I have to do 2 floor Sekhemas to get a coin for 3 floor? I did floor 1 and 4 trials for my first two ascendancies and done about ~30 maps and have yet to see a 3 floor coin drop.

KforKerosene1

Bonus in-case you are dumb like me. When people say 2 floor or 3 floors there is literally a door at the end of the treasure room.

MonkaTOSOMEGALUL1

4th point wont work at sanctum, confirmed

ZepherK1

Thanks for this post. It's very helpful.

Not to derail the conversation or throw more fuel onto the fire or anything, though... but the current trials aren't fun. They feel bad and the RNG involved with the "choices" we make before each floor are very frustrating. Sometimes, I can be on the third floor of the Trials of Chaos and know by looking at my choices for the challenge will defeat me before I even try. It's also very frustrating that learning the boss' mechanics requires me to blow 15 minutes a run just to try to figure out which attacks will one shot me.

I learn through repetition and only being able to try that fight every 15 minutes just doesn't work for my learning style. The fight feels new every time, but the frustration mounts.

Throwaway5256121

Wait....trial of suckenema can have multiple floors? Yikes

CreamFilledDoughnut1

Why did they have to take lab

I fucking hate sanctum so god damn much