Trials of Chaos are worse than you think

The current trials provide unique game modes for those who enjoy something different. It shouldn’t gate Ascendency though.

If the same fragment drops , just sell it using alva and buy the ones you need via alva . You can either farm it or just buy the fragments beforehand and do it in 1 go.

aside from specifically that boss and its massively overtuned tornado attack, its really easy

trialmaster is pretty hard though, I died at the trialmaster

I then went on to do sanctums instead and made it, took me 3 tries if I remember correctly

3rd ascendancy took my 5 tries

I had a bunch of relics that gave honor resistance and extra merchant choices (this one is super important)

3 hour sanctum run? How? Why?

1 hour tops

Thanks for giving me another reason to blow off endgame.

3h sanctum? I blast through 4th ascendancy in 45 mins, guess sorc is broken.

I still didnt do the trial of chaos … jesus

Sanctum takes like 15 minutes.

i just bought the two other frags for like 20ex after doing it once and melted the trialmaster, he's honestly as hard as +3 Difficulty map bosses.

Kinda hard to fail with a decent build.

Your are playing a trade league. Click on alva to purchase fragments

I thought the trials were bad too until I farmed gear and relics. I think getting your 4th ascendancy should be hard and feel like a major achievement. 

If you wanna throw a sanctum run later on hit me up and we can clear (got a decent relic set-up) as long as rng doesn’t pound us, cleared 4 floors a good few times now

Trial of Chaos is easy once you get honor resist. Bonus if you get some special relics (being able to see 1 room ahead). Did my 4th ascendancy with ease yesterday.

the pain of fighting the bird and his unavoidable, insane damage tornado attack

yes, the infamous unavoidable 3 second charge up tornado attack

dont even have to read more to know that its all made up / misinformation.

Exactly the same happened to me today… after finally beating that bugged bird and hoped to finally ascend for the last 2 points.. little did I knew that you only get a fragment. I paid lots of ex for the inscribed ultimatums and it was hard.

So after that and also before that I ran the sanctum like 5x times to finally best the last boss. I mean he is hard and you really have to know the mechanic and so on but it was satisfying to finally beat him.

Give it a try or more you will get your points. With each run you will learn more and more and and eventually will get your last ascendancy points. A

Welcome to PoE :) always was and always will be this way.

I don't mind them. As full melee warrior i find both the trials to be fun and challenging

I am struggling on my third brother, I know your pain.

It's like a 20 hour investment for 4th ascendancy. I already uninstalled after getting my third one cause I'm done done done with this game. Don't like it at all. 91 dead eye and my God was it a boring end game.

Couple things about the 4th ascendency - if you’re getting repeats of the same fragment (you need 3 total) look up which one you’re getting in the currency exchange. I’m not sure of the name but one of the fragments is equal to more than the cost of the other two. So if you’re duplicates are of the expensive fragment you can sell the second one you have and literally buy the other two fragments. Another thing I’ll note, this boss has a large health pool. He tanks damage. He doesn’t output the most damage consistently but it’s a longer fight than what you’re probably used to. The fight costs about 40-50 exalt orbs (10 exalts for each of the first two fragments each and 20-25 exalts for the third fragment). Watch videos beforehand and optimize your build. I had to redo the fight 3 times until I beat him and it’s a lot currency AND time to waste if you lose your fights against him.

Honestly I did it 4 times total, the first three times I failed the fourth time I did it, beat the griffin.

And that was it, I could’ve sworn I had an option for rooms past the griffin my first three attempts but maybe I was wrong…

The griffin fight was also in a different location… my first three attempts was in more of like an arena the 4th wasn’t and was more in a mountain area with lots of different segments

My first chaos run I killed the bird , items dropped.

Then I died to one of the effects he cast before dieing. Lost everything. Completely wasted run.Haven't tried chaos again since.

Feels bad.

The game was just released. Wouldn't it be a bigger issue if after such short amount of time players could already unlock some of the strongest things? I never played Poe1 so I don't know the progression there worked, but I think it's a good thing if players can grind for 2-3 months before being close to maxed out on their characters (GG drops excluded, those can take years to get)

?????? It explicitly says on the trial that it gives you the ascendancy. AND IT DOESNT????

In poe1 we originally had to find all 6 lab trials in maps before we could get our fourth ascension. But then GGG recognized that the randomness of getting repeats over and over was detrimental to the game and changed it to just needing to find the first lab. This feels like they forgot all about that learned lesson.

Might as well focus on sanctum. The trick is the vender. Ended my run with something like 20 boons including some majors. You are looking for boons that give you more spirit water, vender cost half price to help you spiral out of control early. I was just buying everything off every vender easily.

Never convert your spirit water to keys or go for keys, thats a trap.

fill relics up with honour resistence and either more spirit water, max honour or vender additional choices.

Never take afflictions that limit your sight and random room, ever, period. That's how you brick a run.

Every PoE player goes in with the expectation that you should ascend as part of your power progression relatively easy. In PoE1 you just go lab and done. You fail, you go again etc. pretty easy.

In PoE2 ascending actually is a pretty big late game goal at least for me. I was 92 before I got my 4th ascendency and it was kind of a joke. My character is not even fully juiced (lvl 19 gems, mid stage gear etc.) and I 1 shot the chaos bosses. A chaos run takes me about 15 min. and most modifiers I don´t care so I just click and go.

I farmed the chaos actually for soul corse to get the 10% rarity one to drop and just got the 3 trial stones by accident. Didn´t plan on doing it but just went in and trial master was also kind of easy.

What I want to say is. Just overlevel .. don´t plan with the points when you do your build until late game and see it as a bonus goal not mandatory progression.

PoE2 just handles ascendency differently.

If its good .. I don´t know. But having it as some sort of later game goal I kind of found better then just lvl 70 uber lab and done.

But I also farm sanctum and chaos regularly just for loot.

same lol

I‘m lvl 70 and haven’t my 3rd Ascension Even…

I have adhd and play a Minion witch. Most of the time I don’t see what is going on on the Screen with all the effects going on.

…And then I either die or lose too much honor.

The worst is I actully do enjoy the Concept of trials otherwise with all the different Mini Games…

I absolutely love the Game, but it‘s so frustrating to keep failing this, especially considered how Long it takes to get through all the floors…. Just to then faul in the very end anyways.

You are worse than we think

the trialmaster is way harder then an, of the bosses,i can freezekill any ultimatum boss without them even fighting back butmydps is too low for the trialmaster i always go out of flasks

You forgot to mention a 3 hour sanctum run that ends with a boss that has been tuned to have an unbelievable amount of health. My minion build with +8 to gems at level 84 took 20 minutes to get him to 25% health before it wiped my honour out

Worse than I think!! I don't think it's possible lmao..

Everyone here talking about ascendancy and I'm over here at level 16 just trying to figure out gear...

I currently love the ultimatum in its current state, because my build can clear it pretty easily ive been farming the pieces and making some easy currency for a very stress free 15 minute run.

Does the Tornado boss have Pin buildup? If not, I've encountered a bug where your character is unable to move, anyone else?

Yeah a pinnacle boss with fragments for the ascendancy is a bit over the top I think.

The upshot is, that the fragments are really cheap, because ultimatum is quite easy once your character can farm T15 and a lot of people like to farm soul cores apparently. Easy money if you can’t beat Xesht to juice up breaches are run deli stuff.

Even then.

I had zero trouble destroying the 3 bosses, I reached trial master and he took so little damage I thought I was in a 80zone (it was a 75 trial), and then after doing 2mil dps he one shotted me.

just flip your fragment on the horticrafting station... oh wait

The issue I have is both trials are boring to farm up for 5-10hrs. I'd much rather do T15 breaches.

Oh man, I’m always dying to that bird boss tornado!!

Remember we are beta testing the game. 1.0 is. Not out yet. Give feed back they will make changes. Game is not going to be put full release for 6 to 12 months lots will change. We paid to test the game.

I don't feel like something as integral to your characters build as an ascendancy should be tied to something as hard as trials.

The third trial already got me to uninstall this game, sounds like it'll be worth revisiting in a year or two when the player hostile content is gone, hopefully.

At least you are not crashing. Ultimatum is the only place in the game where my game freeze and closes itself. It sucks because Im lvl 91 and I oneshot everything at this point but I just cant complete any run even if its a breeze. Forever locked out of my last ascendancy because there is clearly something wrong with the coding of that zone as Im not the only one crashing in the Trials there are dozens of posts on reddit. And now its holidays so it wont get fixed in weeks. Rip

On the flip side, the trialmaster himself is a complete joke of a fight.

All the negative effects dont follow to that fight and he barely does enough dmg to make you want to avoid his abilities. If you have sustain its close to impossible to die there.

The current ascendency system feels kinda bad I won't lie. There is a major paradigm shift going on though and I'm not sure how the player base will handle it. In PoE Ruthless, there was only 6 ascendency points, period. In PoE 2, it seems like the final 2 ascendency nodes (the level 75+ challenges that drop from high level maps) are supposed to be difficult to achieve. Very difficult.

It feels especially bad because you need to do basically mapping level content to get 6 points, whereas I feel like once we get Act 4 most players will be able to have 6 points by the end of act 5 at the latest.

But yes, it seems like getting your final ascedency points are is very hard and potentially "aspirational content." I'm not sure how I feel about this, it makes ascendency points even more valuable than before, but I also am looking forward to the challenge, honestly.

Fucking Chaos Ultimatum having 3 keys that drop randomly is bullshit btw. Jesus GGG. Pls staph with this fucking shit if we don't have a way to swap our keys.

I got all 3 in order then Trialmaster just 1 shot me xdd

So I went to the honour bullshit and I got lucky with the rooms.

Not to mention the Trialmaster has soooooooo much hp, I'm using meta build and could barely scratch him, while I one shot any other boss I've fought so far.

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I avoided this problem by planning a character with only two ascendancy points, as ggg intended

thank you for the notification! On my first run I thought I'll be ascend at the end but I got a fragment instead. I was angry to run the stupid annoying trial again. For the second time I had to jump out for a trade. It turned out it is not possible to reenter... (ok it was the same for poe lab too but that game design is ancient)

I won't bother to start again. It is simply stupid and just an unnecessary time sinker.