Now we can't agree on much, but I think we can all agree that Vaal Foundry is the worst map layout in the current game right?

Mire, mire is the worst one lol

I hate Vaal Foundry and the map with all the trees (Willow?) augury isn’t as bad as people make it except for the lever animations.

Not really. Crypt exists. My spells literally dont go off if I mouse over a pillar by accident. I guess I'll just die.

This map made me quit the game.

Is Vaal boundary the one with the multiple switches that take like 15 seconds? I always go clear all three directions before I go back to the switch and no matter how much I try I miss one straggler who just wails on me while I struggle with the dumb switch unable to cancel out of my action/motion… and I end up dead.

Maybe there is a way to cancel out of the animation but I’m too dumb to have figured it out if there is.

My only problem with Vaal Foundry is that maps of that theme occasionally have inaccessible areas. The other issues it has are not unique to Vaal Foundry.

Sure is good for sparkmage ngl

willow is objectively the worst because of the amount of trees and rocks blocking your movement and attacks. plus it looks like shit. vaal factory and blooming field were my other two least favorite until i got blink

Mire it is. But Vaal Foundry is close behind :D

As someone playing tempest flurry I get stuck on every little object in the game. Pillars trees and narrow paths are my enemy and they’re literally everywhere in this game. If I had one map to run I’d pick savannah.

cant agree

Blooming field with delirium..

I think right now it's easier to list the best ones rather than bad ones, for the bad ones the list is just too extensive hehe. And most of the time feels like I'm only running those types of horrendous maps, it's crazy how my towers get together only around those nightmares of maps...

Why no one mentions crypt? It's the worst for both expedition and breach

Foundry, sun temple, and the towers are my least favorite while using my bonestorm character. On my monk it seems like all maps are about the same though

Willow and whatever the bramble one is called are the worst ones.

The ones with doors or that spiral out are annoying but at least I can tell what I can walk on and floor effects.

Willow, Augury, and Steppe

Mire

DELETE AUGURY

Pretty sure Augury is the worst cause of the lever animation, on top of similar indoor pains as Vaal Foundry has.

Not to say Vaal Foundry isn't bad. Just that Augury is even WORSE

Also has the worst boss, if you can’t one shot him, the whole lava thing is terrible for melee, half the time he doesn’t even leave the lava to attack him and gets his es back

Augury. I will actively avoid it.

I haven't found it to be too bad. Mostly played melee in maps so far though.

Someone make a list for worst map please specially if you’re playing minion build

Savannah is awful because it feels like every mob on the map aggro just from walking a few meters. I had a couple of respawning minions follow me around the map for like 5 minutes until I found the rare they belonged to.

Mire, also the towers kinda suck too. A bunch of circles with a narrow entrance and a god awful trash mob that phases and freezes you annoying at the best time deadly at worst

It's one of my favourites.

Judging by the comments sections I think the thing we can all agree on is that about 50% or more of the map layouts in the game currently are complete dog shit lol.

It’s funny because I lucked out playing a Monk heavily using charged staff. Not only are those tight corridors wonderful for clumping enemies for herald explosions, or that hallways are perfect to funnel enemies into the projectiles, but also the charged staff projectiles (which are not coded as and do not count as projectiles) go through walls as if they weren’t there. It has none of the downsides of other builds running these maps and a few upsides even.

The worst thing about Vaal Foundry is there is like zero mob density so I don’t even waste a good waystone on it

Vaal factory/foundry, mire, and hidden Grotto are my personal worst maps, just horrible.

You forgot the mobs that's in there. They have a little animation waking up before you can attack them, and there's like 1 dude here, 1 dude there. I actually don't mind any other map, it's by far the worst map for me.

Funny way to spell augury

Mire is also cancerous, 2 screen away one shot purple gunk

Laughs in forking projectiles

Deserted i hate

willow, mire

augury for me, getting immediately gooned from two angles and pinned.

Valley factory, Augury, Mire, Seepage, Sun Temple.

For sure. Horrible layout. 

for me nothing tops the decay map. such low visibility...

Not just layout. Maybe its just me but it seems that monsters here are more tanky then on every other map. I am avoiding this map

I absolutely hate Fortress and Blooming field. Vaal foundry is also bad

Maybe in their next game players will have the agency to decide what layouts they like and can focus on running those.
Maybe you can even decide what lategame mechanic you want to focus on and then pick a layout that works well with that mechanic.

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Augury is worse, you cant even see properly between rooms.

Also think the boss might be bugged. Didn't drop the atlas map boss books twice, while other bosses did 

Vaal factory is big with a lot of backtracking, but nothing is worst than Augury in my opinion, by a large margin, and I'm not even talking about the levers, too many narrow corridors and small doors where you can easily be bodyblocked. I hate this map.

Grotto for me. God damn

No, vaal factory is 1000 times worse

Mire and Augury for me: too many narrow sections