Why Do People Get Ingenuity Belts, and What’s a Better Upgrade To Gear?

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I see almost every monk build have an ingenuity belt at very far end game. But I’m curious as to why if there is indeed a possibility of it lowering your stats depending on how high the percentage of ingenuity belt you buy? Is there something I’m missing?

And then the second question is basically if my logic is correct in saying the previous statement, then what is typically a better upgrade or multiple upgrades to increase damage and or resists in this game? Would it just be two rings with better stats or maybe a better body armor with crazy stats? Just curious.

Thanks all!

Comments

vid_237

Rings are just better than belts. You can divine the belts aswell.

Some stats can roll higher on rings, like attributes, which belts can only roll strength. Rings have rarity, leech, cast speed, increased elemental damages, increased flat damage other than phys, mana regen.

Even if you have a 50% belt, 2 well rolled ring will give you significantly more than a belt with perfect mods

itzlgk6

Simply put, ingenuity makes it so that you’re wearing ~3.75 rings depending on the roll. That’s an entire extra gear slot plus a little extra. If you get two very good rings you can basically cap your resistances and add damage with just 3 pieces of gear. Then the rest of your build is focused on things like rarity/health/shield. Belt just simplifies everything.

In general when you have the belt you try to use breach rings because you can target increase the affixes up to 50% instead of 20. For monk specifically you would get a cold ring with cold resistance and use the catalyst to increase cold modifiers for a double whammy.

In terms of your upgrades they depends completely on what you are lacking. Impossible to say without having a list of your gear. If you’re short on damage then you typically need a new weapon or levels / better passives/ gloves. If you’re short on health / shield you probably need a new helmet / chest. Each “slot” only rolls certain things so after while you start to realize which ones you need to change to accomplish a specific thing.

Daan7763

People get ingenuity for a few reasons.

  • The first is the simpelest. A decent ingenuity basically multiplies your available item slots.   To give a rough visualisation. You get 1.6 ring slots for 1 belt slot. Which nets you +0.6 total slots.

  • Next up: the belt slot doesn’t have a lot of good items you can put there. Charms (which are the main thing unique to the belt slot) just suck. And most of the desirable stats you can get on your belt (such as life, mana, resistances) you can also get on your rings.

  • Other unique belts are simply outmatched by ingenuity.

  • Rings are a pretty powerfull slot at the moment. Giving not just the previously mentioned stats. But also attributes (which work well with “Hands of Wisdom and Action) or cast speed (which is desired by every spell casting build).

All this makes ingenuity the best in slot for pretty much every build.

And yes, ingenuity can indeed lower your stats compared to a rare belt if you have bad rings and/or a low roll on your ingenuity. Thats why pretty much nobody uses poorly rolled ingenuity’s. And why its a late game upgrade.

As for what would be a better upgrade: that depends on the current market and your build. The way I determine upgrades is by looking at my gear and trying to choose which is the “weakest link”. Whatever is the weakest link will get the biggest upgrade I can afford.

Daan7762

People get ingenuity for a few reasons.

  • The first is the simpelest. A decent ingenuity basically multiplies your available item slots.   To give a rough visualisation. You get 1.6 ring slots for 1 belt slot. Which nets you +0.6 total slots.

  • Next up: the belt slot doesn’t have a lot of good items you can put there. Charms (which are the main thing unique to the belt slot) just suck. And most of the desirable stats you can get on your belt (such as life, mana, resistances) you can also get on your rings.

  • Other unique belts are simply outmatched by ingenuity.

  • Rings are a pretty powerfull slot at the moment. Giving not just the previously mentioned stats. But also attributes (which work well with “Hands of Wisdom and Action) or cast speed (which is desired by every spell casting build).

All this makes ingenuity the best in slot for pretty much every build.

And yes, ingenuity can indeed lower your stats compared to a rare belt if you have bad rings and/or a low roll on your ingenuity. Thats why pretty much nobody uses poorly rolled ingenuity’s. And why its a late game upgrade.

As for what would be a better upgrade: that depends on the current market and your build. The way I determine upgrades is by looking at my gear and trying to choose which is the “weakest link”. Whatever is the weakest link will get the biggest upgrade I can afford.

throwntosaturn1

But I’m curious as to why if there is indeed a possibility of it lowering your stats depending on how high the percentage of ingenuity belt you buy? Is there something I’m missing?

You're missing that you just.. don't buy shitty belts, I guess? But even buying a shitty belt is fine because you can just div it until you hit 78% or whatever.

There are very few better upgrades than turning 2 gear slots that can roll damage into 3.6 gear slots worth of stats at the cost of a belt slot which can't roll damage.

sobercrossfitter1

Breach rings with 50% quality make this BIS almost no matter what. I get almost 1100 evasion alone from 2 breach rings and Ing belt. Even with something like Ming’s, the extra lower defenses are balanced out by having a ton of dps. It’s very gear dependent but easily beats out other belts

piiJvitor1

I play a pure mana stacker Stormweaver and I had a 2 divine belt before buying an Ingenuinity for 16 divines, spent 4 more divine and hit 80% bonuses from rings. My dps tooltip increased by around 15%, I increased my mana by around 400 and broke through 6k mana and my elemental resistances raised from 90%+ to 130%+.

Once I replaced some of my gear for more damage as I was way over my capped elemental resistances, I had almost increased my dps by about 50% singlehandedly because of the Ingenuinity belt and I didn't even corrupted it to try to have more than 80%. Ingenuinity is a non brainer for every build in the game.