Vorana + From Nothing Jewel Combo: A Guide To This Lesser-Known Trick
Despite its immense potential, the Vorana jewel remains one of the most misunderstood/avoided jewels in POE2. I haven’t seen a detailed post here yet on how to maximise its potential—so here I am, with yet another rare jewel guide.
Why Vorana is an Absolute Game-Changer
This jewel is an absolute must-have for stat stackers, because all Vorana jewels give your keystones this Circular Teachings property.
The jewel gave me an instant +4,000 Energy Shield and with less life I just switched to CI and after that I was able to overcome Simulacrum T4 after being hard-stuck. It also allowed me to swap from Sapphire jewels to Emeralds, which increased my hideout Stormwave DPS to 1.6M+.
Apart from Keystones, the Vorana Jewel also changes the abilities of your nodes. If you're lucky, some notables will transform into +15 stats nodes with +40% increased damage—an insane boost for stackers. Other nodes give abilities like +40% energy shield.
But while some may be already aware of this, many players stop there, because while the notables are great, they're too far away and not worth the investment on weak nodes, just to path to them.
How the From Nothing jewel changes everything.
The From Nothing jewel gives you access to these 5 notables without pathing to them
The From Nothing jewel allows you to connect to any node within its radius, making pathing a non-issue. When combine and placed within a perfect Vorana roll, you can get:
- +75 total stats (15x5)
- +200% increased damage (40%x5 - fire/cold/physical damage etc)
- All this for just 5 passive points!
Where to place the From Nothing jewel?
The most popular slot is at the Dance With Death keystone which is at the bottom right. You can search on the trade site for the jewel with the property "Passives in radius of Dance with Death..." or use this link.
- Dance with death has access to the most transformed notables (5) within Vorana’s radius.
- Most builds skip the original notables in this area, so you lose nothing by modifying them.
- There are hundreds of listings of Dance With Death jewels at just 1-2 Divs, so it's one of the most underpriced jewels.
The second most popular slot is at the Whispers of Doom keystone (Near Pure Power), you can use this link to search for it. The From Nothing jewel for that goes at about 4-5 Divs.
How to Buy a Known Configuration Vorana Jewel?
The players on The Forbidden Trove discord (invite link) are the more hardcore traders and half of them who post have figured out this combination too. So they will take a screenshot in the #jewels-wts-poe2 group and you’ll often see screenshots like the above, accompanied with numbers and a description of their properties like this:
- 10% Cast Speed / 10% Chance to Pierce an Enemy
- 40% Cold damage / 15 dex
- 40% Fire Damage / 15 Int
- 40% Cold damage / 15 dex
- 40% Energy shield / 10% lightning res
These numbers refer to the 5 node transformations within reach of the From Nothing jewel because those are the ones that matter.
FAQ:
1. Tell me more about the Vorana jewel.
The Heroic Tragedy Timeless Jewel comes in three versions:
- Vorana - Strength's inherent bonus is 1% increased Energy Shield per 2 Strength instead
- Olroth - Intelligence's inherent bonus is 1% increased Evasion Rating per 2 Intelligence instead
- Medved - Dexterity's inherent bonus is 1% increased Armour per 2 Dexterity instead
So when people talk about the Vorana jewel, it's really the Heroic Tragedy Timeless Jewel with the Vorana spec as it's the only one worth its price. The jewels start from 40D+ on the market and Voranas are priced at 1-3 Divs more because all it takes is just 1-3 Divines to randomise Medved/Olroth's to Voranas.
2. What does the seed number in the XXX Songworthy Deeds mean?
Each Vorana jewel has a random seed number specified before the Songworthy Deeds phrase, that determines how your passive tree is transformed. You can use Divine Obs to re-roll the seed and it's supposed to be somewhat of a "Divine Sink", for players wanted extreme build optimisation.
It's important to know that when you divine it, you risk changing a Vorana to a Medved or Olroth. You'll have to divine it till it goes back to a Vorana. So on average, you're spending 3 divines to get a re-roll on a Vorona, not 1 divine.
3. Should I corrupt the jewel?
No, there is zero value in doing that and it will prevent rerolls and the market value of it will plummet.
4. Is the jewel seed tied to the players? Does it mean each player will get a different result for the same jewel?
This is not true. Perhaps it worked that way in POE1 that's why some people think that (but I never played that), but in POE2, the jewel's transformations stay the same even when you trade it with other players.
5. What are some other spots for the From Nothing jewel?
The From Nothing jewel affects the radiance around keystones, and different keystones have different prices. On Discord, 80% of players use the jewel that affects the Dance with Death keystone (1-2D). About 15% the Whispers of Doom (4-5d) that is at the top near pure power, and 5% at the other misc spots.
If you have a high-end build, another way to use the From Nothing jewel is to buy the Resonance keystone (150D). I did this so I could remove spaghettification from my amulet anoint and get Pure Power instead. It was a slight upgrade for me, but not a cost-effective one because I now miss out on the Vorana benefits.
More guides to rare jewels?
Rare jewels in general are misunderstood because the majority of casuals won't see it drop and unfortunately most will miss out on their potential. But from just 1-3D, you can get absolute game-changing results. If you found this useful, I previously wrote a Megalomaniac Jewel Guide, which broke down the best budget nodes under 5 Divs.
As part of my rare jewel guide series, I’m considering writing in detail about the Adorned or Against the Darkness next. What would you like to see?
If you found this guide helpful, then it was worth my time writing it.
Comments
Some important disclaimers, the ES% from Circular Teachings scales of base ES, not your total ES, that means it scales from the ES numbers on your items, having high ES items is important to really take advantage of the Vorana Jewel.
It doesn't work with the Enhanced Effectiveness node from the Gemling ascendancy, so you will lose a lot of life for the ES you would get.
Nice guide, thank you!
So do I get it right, if I play non-meta build wwith TFT sellers, there is no way to know what bonuses Vorana will provide? Interesting design for 50div item, lol.
Extremely helpful and detailed guide. Good content!
Great guide thank you! I've found it very confusing to call Heroic Tragedy a Rare jewel when it is in fact an Unique jewel. I guess you mean it in the literal sense but still, had to point that out.
EDIT: in fact all of these are not Rare jewels, they are Unique Jewels:
As part of my rare jewel guide series, I’m considering writing in detail about the Adorned or Against the Darkness next. What would you like to see?
Sounds expensive
Not everyone is a stacker with a ton of str...
Oh my gosh dude. Thank you so much.
This was the explanation I've been looking for. It seems like a long haul to get but I'll be darned if this isn't my goal. I dunno if I want to play the wipe next mini-season or keep grinding for the Astra and the Verona.
I am commenting so I can come back and see this after work.
Wanted to do this for my stat stacker but I can’t afford the vorana jewel!!! :(
This is all going so far over my head.
I feel like I'm missing 80% of how to build end game.
Where are you getting these jewels and how do you figure all of this out ?
I'm lv82 with a 100k dmg lv28 magma barrier (still only have a raw lv17 gem) . I broke my build and fixed it to the point I can 1 shot bosses. But I'm so squishy and would love to be able to get my hands on something like this giving me a huge survival boost.
Very detailed guide for something that costs over 30 divines and will absolutely blitz your stats for es. I bought one before, and it’s not worth the dent unless your build is able to fit it in.
Do not buy this unless it can be the last thing you need basically
Interested to know which modified nodes (stats) did you grab and what seed number did your vorona exactly have? Hopefully this doesn't ever happen, but couldn't someone just make up numbers and provide cool screenshots just to scam potential buyers, as there are currently no way of verifying that the seed number does what it does other than taking someone's words for it or testing it yourself once you buy it? I'm guessing the forbidden trove has rules for people posting the stats and findings?
Been using this on a fire-mace infernalist.
Suffice to say it's hot.
Not sure if this is that good for my gemling, but I might need this guide for next league
lol I've had no idea this existed.
Good to see timeless jewels remain a mistake. Completely impenetrable without an outside reference and incredibly busted.
- Should I corrupt the jewel?
No, there is zero value in doing that and it will prevent rerolls and the market value of it will plummet.
Why is this the case? Can the jewel not get an implicit like anything else?
Like I understand why corrupting risks the item, but there is the potential to improve it if you already have the exact roll you want, is there not?
Do you know the difference in power gain of vorana/from nothing combo vs from nothing/against the darkness?
Are these from particular bosses? Where do you get them?
It’s “lesser-known” because 99% of players are priced out of it hahaha
The timeless gems are 35 divs and above lol. Wish it was only 2 diva
the Vorana jewel remains one of the most misunderstood/avoided jewels in POE2.
Never knew about this simply because I never got even a single unique jewel.
And can't get this via trade either due to absurd prices.
How can you place the Vorana and the From Nothing Jewl in the same place? I just acquired both jewels in order to try to improve my stat build but it does not allow me to have both at the same time, any advices?