0.2.0 Is a Meta reset patch.

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People are acting like the sky is falling, we still don't know the details about the new 100+ support gems or the new 100+ unique's.

The node tree has also been reworked and we have no info on that yet either, as well as rebalancing for damage for every ability in the game. For all we know the changes to skills were seeing keep most of the builds more or less the same.

We won't know until the patch goes live and we find out, GGG already admitted that there will be new broken builds probably, the community will find them again.

The world isn't ending, it's time to find the new 1 button builds. They exist, no way they don't with 100+ new support gems. Lmao.

Comments

TopDeckPro1

honestly anyone expecting builds to remain as is are not the kind of players they need or want atm

MarshallTreeHorn1

But I wanted to do nothing but cast Spark for the next eight years! No fair!

Beast_of_Guanyin1

I love the patch notes.

The current meta is just so aggressively boring. There's just so much stuff that every build would have. I love that they nerfed the meta builds. Fewer jewels is great too, they should be a special thing, not something spammed. Asis my dodgy self-build had 7. Meta builds had way more.

Stuff will be broken this patch, but hopefully we'll have fewer items so universally taken. Items should be useful for a handful of builds, not every single one.

Practical_Primary8471

do you know how many times in poe1 we've said, "we don't even have the full notes yet it cant be that bad" then it end up being 10x worse then most people thought? lol

Gelopy_1

Well, they are very vocal about it since 0.2 was teased. And we don't have an idea about the 100 uniques/support gems. 1 to 2 weeks after 0.2, broken builds will definitely pop up and nerfs will happen again

AppleNo44791

good, nobody should be killing pinnacles in 5 seconds

Falconsbane1

You are absolutely right. People always overreact though so this was easily predictable.

TalkativeTri1

We needed an apocalypse.

I'm very happy with the changes and excited to see where everything ends up in 3-4 weeks. Friday is going to be incredibly fun!

adalos21

Thanks for the 10th exact same post that someone else has already posted

trustysidekicks1

We don’t know yet - so many things could be changed with support gems, items, uniques, nodes, base damage of gems. Balance needed to be reeled in and hopefully there will be more interactions/flexibility for more creative builds.

fabrizio541

It is just me that sees that the Meta will not change? Kkkkk

Archemage lost power but is still the most comfortable gem to use, mace melee is ass and the nerf to all gem is kinda disappointing.

svsqul1

why did they destroy hexblast?

ItWasDumblydore1

Whats funny HOWA is still op on gemling X-bow...

"The Hand of Wisdom and Action Unique Gloves now Adds 1 to 10 Lightning Damage to Attacks per 20 Intelligence (previously per 10 Intelligence), and now provides 1% increased Attack Speed per 20 Dexterity (previously 3% per 25 Dexterity). The per attribute changes will affect existing items, while a Divine Orb can be used to obtain the remaining value changes. This Unique is also now found as the Spiral Wraps Base Type, instead of Furtive Wraps. This change does not affect existing items."

Gemling easy AS capped at low dex values, actually needing way less dex... OR it would nerf it's damage by beating the AS cap (which glitched the xbow to fire slower.) So you really wanted something like 24.9 AS~, so the massive AS nerf isn't that big, and making double the int needed is fine. Gemling X-bow was already seeing 20-30 million end game so now it's just 10-15 million dps... Maybe closer to 10,000,000 DPS as the end game with needing a bit more dex.

It's most borked skill (shockburst rounds) that was achieving 20-30 million already had insane base WD (200%WD/450%AS)... I'm surprised it didn't get a nerf, but will have to wait and see if the other rounds got better, as you cant compete with shock burst for bossing.

Strik3rr1

Brand new game at no cost, was tiring of previous league so regardless of how bad it appears, it's still a win to me.

HumorTumorous1

Some people only want to complain about shit.

spazzybluebelt1

1 week from now someone will have figured out the new 1 button nuke build and ppl will be blasting again

These patch cycles feel like groundhog day

Narrow-Rub35961

Breaking news: beta has balance rework, meta slaves are mad!

YOUR_TRIGGER1

there will be new broken builds. there will almost definitely always be broken builds.

and i'm only going to play when people haven't figured them out yet because farming to buy a few specific items and putting all my skill points exactly where they're supposed to be so that i can clear fast enough to not even know what i'm killing, is fucking boring.

that is the glory of leagues. start a new one. fresh game. people can have fun instead of reading spreadsheets and shit. if you want a stable spreadsheet game, go play eve online.

KasteBortKontoSyv1

its more "Change the game into an even slower dogshit game". Oh also we want you to get RSI by comboing 15 abilities to chip 1% dmg of a rare.

These_Resolve_54961

If the 100 new uniques are dog poop like the ones we got and if none of those we already have creates new builds well the game is dead. Im not playing a version of this game 4x slower because killing mobs is longer and then i get one shot because i can’t no longer one shot them so they one shot me. I just hopes there is 1 or 2 good huntress skills

Impossible_King_39661

After the classes are nerfed, what item do you think will fix this?

3IO3OI31

I personally like everything getting slammed with a sledgehammer. Too much power makes the game less fun for me. I am not joking, I might try to intentionally make my build worse than it should be so I can die.

TheMadG0d1

Anger drowns all the constructive feedback. This is still an early access and the game is incomplete, it’s reasonable to expect huge changes that can flip the entire game.

tooncake1

We can omit the possibilities for that 100+ uniques as they've already stated that they'll make it harder to earn, meaning the most common one to drop are usually best left for your starting characters (and that's still a good thing to ease your new char start again).

The 100+ gems is what I'm honestly been interested to since the announcements, though I am still shocked that some of the skills / passive that can only help you a bit got still nerfed (considering most of these aren't even end-game viable but more of a starting to mid tier support skills / buffs).

frellingfahrbot1

I'm guessing that GGG will be walking back many of these changes, LE will have a record season if GGG won't make major changes by the time their season starts. The stun and ailment threshold changes are going delete the whole casual segment of early release player base.

ClubJive1

The patch notes thread is a nice representation of the "first time" meme.

I'm gonna be honest, coming from PoE1 every patch is likely going to be a meta reset to some degree moving forward. Don't worry, you'll get used to GGG triple tapping abuse cases and over played meta skills.

Reddit crying on patch day and people saying "dont visit reddit for the first week" is an institution at this point in PoE1.

At the end of it all, new skills and builds will arise. It's just not clear at this point and people are still locked in thinking about how it all applies to the current meta.

juseq1

I bet, 1 of the new added unique will be mageblood tier unique.

LonglivemySJ1

include skill damage balancing that dont show in patch note.

LaNkYLaNkZ1

Everyone acting like the world is ending. Just fucken enjoy the game

Final-Ad-1511

This shit but every 3 months is exhausting.

AposPoke1

What meta reset? Archmage and HoWA got nuked and everything else remained crap.

This is the most "bunch of everything for nothing" patch I've seen.

BulbaThore1

I mean crossbows hardly got touched so if you wanna be op. Lightning xbow is the way imo.

TheRealAlosha1

And that's a good thing because this is honestly the fun of POE2 if they didn't change anything then it would just be the same league with the same meta builds with a couple of new content additions, I can't wait to see what the community cooks up in the coming days/weeks

jack1563tw1

That's reddit for you. Remember the time people talking of CoF CoC dead? Guess what, they were working fine after the nerf.

Unique_Detail15191

That would be great if 99.9% of GGG uniques didn't suck complete ass!

Vorestc1

Meta changing patches happened many times in POE1, we will always find the next OP and meta. The question is how long and what it will be this time.

jakpote881

Im all for broken build being nerf. But this patch feel like nothing is good

poisoned151

they did a good job nerfing what needed to be nerfed like lightning rod, attribute stacking, and some crazy aura effect shenanigans. i really wish they didnt nerf grenades, fire spells, and chaos spells though. those architypes were not meta and were fine at their level if not buffed. spears and xbows look like the new hotness

Slow-Leg-79751

I just wish monsters got a slowdown nerf. I don't mind player nerfs, but it's just annoying when you've got a thousands of monsters charging at you at a million miles an hour. Hard to know how you can get "meanful combat" from that.

HLJ_1

I am looking forward to starting a new class and diving into the new mechanics and content on offer. Also, I am really grateful that I was able to enjoy my Tempest Invoker Monk through to lvl88/t14s with the madness of GF and all the heralds, HoWa, Ingenuity and breach rings. Even had a chance to chaos a few white amulets along the way. Not complete end game experience, but SO fun!

Pickledleprechaun1

First I’m hearing of the hysteria. Every new season brings something different. That’s the point of a new season.

PsychologicalCattle1

The tantrums happening right now from 40 year old grown men on the official forums is so damn entertaining.

omggggg i can't believe u nerfed my afk build that 1 shot pinnacle bosses this game is dead ggg gone to shit I'm doing credit card charge back and going to last epoch!!!1!1!1@

TJ_B_881

Damn, if the stones weren't tied to characters (relatively), I'd think adding 100 stones was too much. I hope the new patch at least makes the NON-SRS necromancer playable and not a pile of crap with no damage or survivability. I also hope the crossbowman gets some improvements. Before the druid, the most interesting classes for me are

nanosam1

it's time to find the new 1 button builds. They exist, no way they don't with 100+ new support gems. Lmao.

I hope you are 100% wrong and that 1 button builds are forever dead in PoE2

GGG should make sure that stays in PoE1. Keep nerfing the living hell out of 1 button meta til all traces of this design are gone

Add a huge CD timer on every skill if that's what it takes to prevent brainrot gameplay.

Can you imagine the tears if every skill had a 3sec cooldown? Hahaha :)

Do it GGG, please forever bury 1 button builds

Or maybe diminish damage by 50% on every consecutive button spam, by the 3rd button push see your damage hit for basically nothing lol

themikegman1

People keep acting like it's a full game and forget that it's on fucking EARLY ACCESS!!!!

Salonimo1

Hey OP What's with this logically grounded reasoning and approach? Let people cry their eyes out for mild uninmportant inconveniences in a game that haven't released yet, you sick exile!

klaq1

people are begging daily for 6 portals because(apparently?) they need 6 respawns per map because the game is too hard now. idk how making literally everything weaker is going to play out for those people.

HappyToHaveAHome1

TBH this is so good for the game.

Grunton1

the games in ea, people acnting like the games released and needs no changes

Ash-24491

This is literally the best aspects of live service game, each big patch is a new game, I have 0 interest in playing the same game for a year