I think Ritualist might be bait
So I, ever the hipster wanted to do spears, but didn't want to go Amazon as that's what everyone does, and I wanted to do bleed anyways, so might as well. Having done my second ascendancy I think it's safe to say that it's bait, at least in parts.
It was always going to be an endgame ascendancy as the better your rings are the stronger it is, leveling through campaign a 3rd ring slot isn't going to do a whole lot, so I figured might as well try out the other nodes in the meantime.
Blood Boil is cool, although it only improves clearing which was already plenty good enough with rake and herald of blood, so it doesn't really do much, I'm honestly not sure if it does anything extra, since it applies a blood boil every 1.75 seconds so you'll prolly get 1 or 2 by the time a pack is dead. This might be bait
However As the Whispers Speak might be the biggest bait in the game. think it's a hyperbole when people say that GGG doesn't test their game, but I honestly can't see how else this made it into the game. As the Whispers Speak allows you to crouch down and absorb slain rare mobs through their corpses. That's all good and well, however Herald of Blood explodes all mobs so there are no corpses left to use. So I either disable Herald of Blood or these two ascendancy points are literally unusable. How this made it into the game I have no idea, but it's extremely frustrating.
The life regen node might be good, but I can't really see any use for it as I can't find too many sources of life regen, especially this early.
Charms are pretty useless, so doing anything with those seems to be out of the question.
It seems like the ascendancy's power budget went into the ring passives, but with the neccessary downside small passive taking it is not an option until you can at least get a rare ring that circumvents it.
It honestly feels like if you spend 4 points you get 2 points worth of stuff, and I'm kind of disheartened. I started Chrono and Chayula in 0.1.0 so I sure know how to pick them.
Did anyone have any success in doing anything with the Ritualist?
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Blood Boil is cool, although it only improves clearing which was already plenty good enough with rake and herald of blood, so it doesn't really do much, I'm honestly not sure if it does anything extra
Herald of Blood cancels out Blood Boil, because (I assume) it needs the corpses to spread the corruption. Not really sure if this is intended or not but you have to choose one or the other. May be the reason why you weren't sure it does anything.
On it's own Blood Boil is pretty good though.
I think the play with the charm nodes is to get perma uptime on a handful of useful charms.
Like the new onslaught charm with permanent uptime at 45% increased effect from the tree is pretty strong.
That's all good and well, however Herald of Blood explodes all mobs so there are no corpses left to use.
wait that is so fuckng funny
I thought I was doing something wrong with whispers, took me far too long to realize HoB was eating the corpses. I kept isolating rare mobs and spamming rit sac, like slamming my fucking q button faster was going to make it work somehow. Not one of my brightest moments lmfao.
I’m currently running Str+life+block chance stacking boiling blood ritualist, using unique buckler that applies corrupted blood on block. 75% chance to block using glancing blows
I think with enough life regen the regen ascendancy will come into play to make me tanky, since I’m focusing on life stacking
Works pretty good so far, I’m in act3
I did the exact same thing, and exact same results.
I really wanted to try Whispers and realized that my entire build voided it because the corpse explodes.
I really, really don't want to level another character, but at this point I kinda have to.
Everything you're listing was known beforehand and the reason people didn't start ritualist. It's a bad starter ascendency. There's a reason "everyone does the same" at start.
Except for the herald thing, I don't think people predicted this one but I also don't think anybody that wanted a good build expected to spec into the Ritual Sacrifice node... a skill that requires you to stop and channel on the corpse of a monster.
its witch hunter vs gemling type of situation
once people get to endgame and get amazing rings they gonna regret not rolling a ritualist instead
Same here. I also use corrupting cry, but they have different damage calculations with the cb from blood boil. Also blood boil does no damage on single target, so it’s hard to find another skill set for bossing for me now.
3 iron rings make almost a weapon by themselves, or 30% all res with 3 implicits.. it might be just as effective as another ascendancy, given some rng..
The ascendency isn’t bait, it’s just not a starter.
Reporting in: Ritualist and Animal Companion are bait. There is absolutely no place for a 54% reservation in a build for an aura like 10% skill speed or 180 energy shield 4m aura on any beast and definitely not 2 of them. Ritualist is literally just +2 rings. Blood Boil is some ramping and rotting dot based on killed mob hp, again on a 4m aura + time, if it was just corpse explode it'd still be bad. Charms lol. And a worse behead support cus it requires maintence lol. If ur spearing ur already feeding whirling as mobility + support, just add behead culling and ur a ritualist -2 rings.
Advert your efforts and just play deadeye.
Those monster modifiers aren't good either way, so don't be mad bloodburst breaks it. Whirlwind cold also shatters everything, frozen or not lol so pretty much the main 2 ways people are playing break it.
Wow, okay that is actually just shit. I hate stuff like that, when it feels anti-synergy or just punishing for no reason.
I liked chrono :(
its life recovery rate, not just regen. It works with flasks, leech, recoup. Its probably really good for lowlife builds but the issue is maintaining lowlife
My whole reason for going Ritualist was to abuse the 3rd ring slots and 25% bonus to rings and amulets stats, you effectively end up with 3.75 rings and 1.25 amulets worth of total stats in your build even with the rarity changes I'm gonna abuse 3 gold rings and a gold amulets for modt of my mapping progress
Do friendly companions drop corpses when they die? If so, you could get to choose which rare affix you want to bring!
explode has always destroyed corpses. at least in poe1 its really good to get rid of a ton of things that mobs do once dead, the big one being DD. i get that its annoying but some things dont always synergize in the ascendancy. thats why most of the times ascendancies arent always pigeon holed into one archetype.
Had the exact same problem, was playing twister with cold ground so any monster was just a shattered mess and no mods to be stolen.
Also the mods are very underwhelming, most of the time even on 5+ buffs i cant tell if i do anything special or the cold explosions come from the monsters im fighting.
The only thing that feel like actually getting buffed is the Hasted thing and that shows up once in a blue moon.
I argued with someone before lauch that 5s seems long but with skill speed that will come down consideratly, turns out its just unscalable use time.
Everything apart from the ring stuff feels uterly useless in that ascendancy, even compared to the lower powerlevel of poe2.
Kinda sad, that whole thing sounded pretty fun and from the wording i thaught at first the 1 Buff you get by stabbing urself is permanent, at least for the map, but no, also just some 20ish seconds. Imagine having this ascendancy in poe1, wed be crusing
The life regen node is like one of the best ascendancy points in the game 5% increase regen for every 5% missing health if your missing 20% your getting 20% and that’s on passive regen and life leech and it effects your health potions and there’s supports to make it so you don’t destroy corpses or you can use bloody boil in place of heard of blood since they do very similar things
It does not make sense that blood boil does not proc after corpse explosion tho. Maybe its salvageable. Ritual sacrifice cannot be saved tho
I don't think Ritualist is meant to be "the herald of blood" ascendancy. There are other bloodloss payoffs you can use, and since herald of blood pops corpses that would spread corruption, and blood boils are already good clear, it sounds like you should replace it. You can also disable it on a weapon swap.
I've been using blood hunt on rares so they usually still have their corpses. Is the actual buff good?
I’m doing galvanic ritualistic to great success, turbo scales at a future point I haven’t hit yet but haven’t had a problem with any content so far (level 72)
It's always a mistake to play the cool thing you want. You're guaranteed to never get to maps. You have to find the just barely off meta thing if you want to be a hipster (LS with Warden instead of Slayer lol)
I love breach and I love monk. You do the math.
I had a bad last league. Before I switched to Sparkweaver.
From widowhail/quiver shenanigans, we know that +level rounds up.
Get yourself 3 Levinstone rings and a +3 ammy and get 10 lightning levels!
Good to know, I was gonna roll Ritualist this season.
Chrono was amazing and well balanced in 0.1, and now it's even better. I cleared all content without trouble with it, including t4 Delirium and Arbiter.
I hope this gets the attention it deserves
Has anyone been able to make spearfield strong?
I don't like a single ascendency in poe 2