Whats the point of Ritual Altar items that you cant afford to defer after a full clear? Are GGG just teasing me or am i missing something?

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Adventurous_Trick_6620

Ritual is so unrewarding I think it still follows POE1 math where theres actually tons of mobs so you can go upto 5k tribute in POE2 this is not the case I always ends up with ~1200.

SirGregoryAdams4

There's no relation between what's in the selection, and by extension how much it costs to defer, and the circumstances of the Ritual (number of monsters, monster level etc.). Although there is some relation to zone level, iirc.

This can absolutely create a situation, where you see something that you can neither buy nor defer. It's been the same in PoE 1.

ClapTheTrap12

a short about this ring, what would happen to the keystone that makes u immune to chaos.

___Azarath1

It's a bait. You need to invest more in atlas points to increase the capacity of the ritual currency then reduce the ritual praises. That's the ting. If you want same thing you need to invest.

LordofDarkChocolate1

Ritual, Ultimatum and Sanctum are all poor mechanics that hardly anyone runs in POE. For some reason known only to GGG, they were ported to POE 2 and 2 of them are essentially core to character building 😳

Iwfen1

have you unlocked some points of the atlas tree for ritual?????

Tilt_Schweigerrr1

It technically is working but probably balanced around pre loot buffs. The idea is that you would get more currency if you run a better map etc.

The atlas skill points are a bit backwards though imo since you gotta kill the boss first in order to make the mechanic remotely worth it which is a pretty steep investment in the first place.

They added the entire endgame in a very short timespan too so it'll probably look a lot better in a couple of months or so.

Overall_Cabinet8441

It's to let you know what could you have won if you did It better!

Zestyclose-Two80271

Just isn't tuned right yet.

Zeyd21121

To show you that your need to invest more into ritual/juice your maps more.

SnooHedgehogs37351

Original sin in ritual O.o

lepsek91

The idea is that you spec into mechanics like ritual on the atlas skill tree to juice the rewards with things like cheaper defer, more mobs, more tribute per kill, more rerolls etc. So yeah, basically a teaser for speccing into ritual.

FartsMallory1

How’s this ring work with CI? Is it absolutely broken as hell?

Objective_Tailor77961

I feel like if you do ritual you HAVE to take the node that makes deferrals 50% cheaper.

BurbonPL1

Yesterday I had the Mist King invitation and I could defer it, but I was too high and rerolled the damn thing by accident lmao

nokillings1

You're supposed to defer the ring because, after deferring multiple times, it lowers the price of the item you defer to a point where you can afford it.

You're supposed to do multiple rituals and several maps to be able to afford it.

Celodurismo1

What am I missing here? You’d pay 1061 to defer it and next ritual pay 2060 to buy it, right?

RegularlyJerry1

Just don’t take anything out of it and go to the next altar

Naive-Fondant-7541

This is an issue since poe1 when it was introduced, never addressed, never fixed .. half the items cannot be obtained because there is not enough currency

HiveMindKing1

It matters a lot also which map you do ritual on, it spawns let’s bad bros in tight corridors as they don’t like to have their style cramped and nuts squeezed.

pewsquare1

You are missing deferral. Some items can only be afforded if you heavily invest into the ritual mechanic, but iirc if you don't fail at all, it should always give you enough to defer any item offered. And each time you defer an item, its cost gets reduced, so you can eventually buy it. And since deferring is cheaper than buying, a strategy of ritual is to just defer items until they are basically free, and spend your tribute on refreshing (within reason) so you get to see more items, which increases the odds of a jackpot item appearing.

Disastrous-Moment-791

At least your ritual worked. I just rageclosed the game after I opened a map and TWO of the rituals in it were glitched and unclickable. This stupid bug is way too common.

JynsRealityIsBroken1

Does tribute save between altars if you don't use it?

DdFghjgiopdBM1

Wow OS is so much weaker than poe 1 lol

Howard_Jones1

Off topic but regarding the photo. Does does the chaos damage created by Original Sin get boosted by chaos damage nodes on the tree? Or from gear?

JinKazamaru1

Nice ring, Int Occult Wand/Scepter Dark Monk... Minions/High ES... HP to 1, Chaos immunity... laugh in Dots and Curses

GL1TCH3D1

I mean, there were things in poe1 even with ritual specced that you’d likely have to defer. Goal is you defer and lower the price over time

Bigboysama1

They are

StinkeroniStonkrino1

Ritual is so ass in most map layout too, spawn in a corridor, oops 5 mobs for your ritual, hope you can buy something good. You want to invest points to make it less ass? Lol pay up 6 divines for the boss item, and also manage to clear it, or pray hard for it to appear in the ritual exchange and also that you can defer it enough to afford it. So ass.

xChocolateWonder1

Ritual, at the moment, is such a waste of time.

Limonade61

So... How many chaos res does this item give? 0?

Ravarix1

Isn't the amount you get from ritual determined by what you kill in the radius? You could kite more mobs into the circles for more juice.

Aggravating_Dig_19641

I’ve been deferring a divine for the past 2-3 days. I think I can afford it today lol. It was originally like 4k ritual points and I’ve deferred it like 5 times

aliensgetsadtoo1

probably expects us to have points on the ritual tree but its like 300 ex to try the boss lmao

Xendicore1

You guys can clear rituals? My sorc is terrified of touching those totem poles. Cleared full 10 wave ultimatum before I beat 3 rituals in a map.

rscmcl1

use deferral

Laxxboy201

Wait till you see one of the GG crafting omens. Saw one for 13,000 fuckin tribute.

Strg-Alt-Entf1

Well the mob density and number of rates and magic mobs fluctuates between maps. And hence the tribute does.

If you want to maximize your tribute, you should juice your maps more. You can:

  • spec into the atlas’s tree

  • use towers to juice

  • roll 6 mod waystones for ritual maps

  • roll a deli layer on your waystone or get it from towers (not 100% sure of that increases tribute though)

I’m not an expert in ritual but if I’m not completely lost, I think you can reliably get way more than 3k tribute per map.

AcrobaticScore5961

Still funny that the implicit is completly wasted on original sin

GangsterTroll1

That is weird.

I haven't done any rituals for a long time. I haven't seen anything worth the effort in them. Maybe if you kept your points between each map I would do them, but as it is now I just skip them. Also, all the altars should be made visible when you complete the map.

coolhandlukke1

I kinda miss the old system tbh. Like it’s fun to just say grind T15 Dunes with rituals, over and over again.

Not sure if Poe 2 allows constant farming of the same content?

nornagest1

You defer it and it becomes cheaper next time, repeat until you can afford it. Isn't that how it works?

Zzyxzz1

Ritual should be deleted from the game. It was already bad in PoE 1 and in PoE 2 its even worse. I skip it now all the time. Its not worth it and its not fun.

LogitUndone1

Yeah, this is another example why I've "quit" PoE2 until they really start to fix things. Right now they're just nerfing skills that are fun and removing some extremely bad monster on-death effects.

Next 1-2 months will show if they plan to make this an enjoyable experience for "the masses" or they want it to be a Ruthless-only player experience that has the same player count as ruthless.... Spoiler, it's not a lot.

NOTE: I'm not asking for the game to be easy. I want PoE2, the "entire" game to feel like it did the first 48 hours of EA launch in Acts 1-3 normal. It was difficult and felt rewarding!

No-Proposal-77221

More mobs = more points. I get shitloads when I run pack size ect

penthouse3331

its called edging

BiggestShep1

Does ritual currency not carry over? Can I save it and bank it or do I have to spend it?

AlcadizaarII1

I think all the endgame mechanics are just highly unfinished, remember they barely worked on it before launching ea

diablo4megafan1

you should be juicing rituals more with precursor tablets and passive points

it's unfortunate that you got a big drop before you were set up to do so but thats always been the risk of running ritual early, even in poe 1 you can get a mirror in a t1 map and not afford the deferral cost